By Manuwant Choudhary
On the day of Supreme Courts judgement on the Babri Masjid I remember two individuals, first
Maulana Wahiduddin Khan, an Indian Islamic scholar and peace activist, and the second - one of India's greatest jurists - Nani Palkhivala.
When the Babri Masjid was demolished in 1992 I was still a student in Bombay but the riots and everything that followed shaped me in some ways leading me to become a journalist.
And even as a cub reporter I noticed when I attended a presser of L.K. Advani no Indian journalist asked any questions...Mr. Advani would go on and on...a one-way monologue about his parrrrty !
Of course foreign correspondents would ask direct questions and he would reply telling them that the westerrn media had misconceptions about him and his politics.
At one presser I recall asking him about his obscrutionist destructive politics of rath yatras and maha-aartees and violence.
Mr. Advani heard me out and gave a rather lengthy 10 minute reply.
I wasn't satisfied with what he said but he spoke his mind and attempted to defend his politics shrouded in eloquence, it made it on the bulletin of Doordarshan Marathi News.....(I think we didn't have private news then)
December 6 would be observed a Black Day in Bombay by the Muslim community since it was the day the Babri Masjid was razed to the ground by Hindu mobs.
And every year my editor would send me to report.
Reporting from the other side of the divide introduced me to an India I had not seen.
Mohammad Ali Road, Bhendi Bazaar..and the stories of what happened during the riots...it was always painful.
Once I see this old lady with a begging bowl lying right under the wheels of a truck. The truck itself was on a slope and one slip of the handbrake the lady would be dead.
With some difficulty I managed to convince the lady to come out from under the wheels and I have never seen or met anyone as sad as her....I told her she would die if she begged this way.
She replied, "Ab jee kar kya karoon..marne hee do...mera ek hee ladka tha...aur riot ne use utha liya..." (What will I do with being alive...let me die...I had just one son but I lost him in the Bombay riots..)
So when I heard about Nani Palkhivala's efforts to bring about peace between Hindus and Muslims I was keen to know more about it.
Nani Palkhivala introduced the Maulana Wahiduddin Formula...under this the Muslims would forego their claims over the disputed site and the Hindus in return would sign an undertaking that they would stop this movement in Ayodhya forever.
At one public meeting Mr. Palkhivala even had religious leaders of all faiths on stage for a dialogue.
When a Muslim Maulana got up to speak some BJP/RSS activists began shouting slogans so as to drown the meeting into chaos.
Things seemed to go completely out of hand when Mr. Palkhivala stood up and looked at the Hindu goons in the eye and told them, "What do you know about your religion? Do you know the Vedas and Upanishads?"
The goons sat down.
Then Palkhivala , a Parsi, began quoting from the Vedas....
The hall turned into pin drop silence.
The Muslim cleric could finally complete his dialogue.
Maulana Wahiduddin travelled across India meeting Hindus and Muslims to accept his formula.
Both Hindus and Muslims rejected it.
I too was not satisfied with the Maulana Wahiduddin Formula but with yesterdays Supreme Court judgement I rate the Maulana Formula far higher than the wisdom of five Supreme Court judges.
Because I now understand its spirit..it was about genuine peace.
Blessed are the peace-makers for they shall inherit the earth.
4 comments:
Subject - How can a Mosque be renounced by virtue of perceptual faith to Idolators &a Heathen God
Context
This is proof that Hindoosthan has to be partitioned.dindooohindoo
The Indian Judiciary,in another case, has hanged a community based on public perception. In other words,it has deprived a Title owner of its Title - on the grounds of perceptual faith,and denied the title holder the right to make a renunciation.
History ?
It is "neither History nor an Interpretation or Perception of History".It is a Distortion of History.What is Public perception in a nation where idols drink milk & rum &500 million people are swayed by a Rs 15,00,00 promise.During the time of Babar,the population of Hindoosthan might have been 15 million &that of Ayodhya,around 350000.
How can the "Muslims" of Hindooosthan - give a Mosque to the Hindoo Idolator ?
ASI
ASI Reports mean nothing as the temple underneath, may have a stupa underneath (as it was a controlled excavation) - &there was no monolithic Hindoo faith in that time - just menial,savage,heathen pagan &satan worshippers.The ASI report has no proof that there was a Rama temple or that it was the birthplace of Rama or that it was a temple of Vishnu.
ASI has done limited excavations in Ayodhya &I can bet that if it is done - there will be several Ram Janamsthans - set up by Brahmins to milk hapless &heathen Hindoos - just like the Bible of Barnabus (appeared magically) &blew up the Jesus crucifixion &resurrection gospel.
The 5 acre pitt(y)ance
Will the Hindoos allow the Muslims to make a "Shaheed Babri Masjid" at the 5 acre spot ? Babar &the Mughals civilised the Hindoos ! Read this verse from the Ramayana - when Ravana describes Seeta !
http://www.valmikiramayan.net/aranya/sarga46/aranya_46_frame.htm
“Your hips are beamy, thighs burly akin to elephant’s trunks, &these two breasts of yours that are ornamented with best jewellery are rotund, rubbing &bumping each other, &they are swinging up &up, their nipples are brawny &jutting out, &they are smoothish like palm-fruits, thus they are covetable for they are beautiful.
“Oh, allurer, your smile is alluring, teeth are alluring, &your eyes allure, oh, beauty, your waist is palmful, your hair velvety, your breasts are jostling, &you rob my soul as a spate robs riverbank. [3-46-21, 22a]
It will be obvious to the AG of the Indian Government, that Seeta was topless &wearing a loincloth. THE MUGHALS TAUGHT THE HINDOOS TO WEAR CLOTHES &DO PROPER ABLUTIONS !
Besides the above,how can a "Muslim" &even an "Indian Muslim" renounce a mosque to Rama ? Who is Mr Tulsidas ? Was the Quran revealed to the Prophet or to Ghazali ? Tulsidas was a hallucinated crank high on coke - in love with Rama who spent 12 years in a jungle with only apes &some humans
As per the Valmiki Ramayana - Sita called Rama an impotent pansy &Rama is quoted in the Ramayana - as stating to Seeta - that she should prostitute herself to apes,demons &Rama's own brother ! Can such a man be a Prophet or a God or Imam ?
Seeta calls Rama an Impotent Pansy
Book II : Ayodhya Kanda – Book Of Ayodhya Chapter[30
“What my father, the king of Mithila belonging to the country of Videha, think of himself having got as so-in-law you, a woman having the form of a man?”
Rama tells Seeta to prostitute herself
Chapter [115
“O Seetha! That is why, I am permitting you now. Go wherever you like. All these ten directions are open to you, my dear lady! There is no work to be done to me, by you.”
“O gracious lady! Therefore, this has been spoken by me today, with a resolved mind. Set you mind on Lakshmana or Bharata, as per your ease.”
“O Seetha! Otherwise, set your mind either on Shatrughna or on Sugreeva or on Vibhishana the demon; or according to your own comfort.”
Can a Mosque be renounced in favour of such a person ?
Partition = only solution the Rama Temple will never be completed
Subject - Chaiwala's scam of the Billenium
Context
This is proof that Hindoosthan has to be partitioned.dindooohindoo
The Indian SC gives the Babri Masjid to the Hindoos
Archaeo-legal evidence
In matters of archaeo-legal evidence of history,the cumulative patterns of archaeological evidence over 1000s of years are to be used - on matters of theological coordinates.
For example,there is no Rama or Vishnu in the Rig Veda - which is a North Indian script (with anti-south indian slant - which makes the absence all the more stark)- and this disaster stretches right upto the opus and treasure troves of Ashoka.
Even assuming that Rama was a dark skinned limpet (as per the Ramayana) and a Dasyus - condemned into oblivion by the Rig veda - and Ashoka being of Saka
origin,put Rama into the prolapsed uterus dustbin - there has to be a trail of evidence pointing to the Rama birth place.
Nil ASI Pattern of evidence
There is no authenticated or carbon dated evidence on a papyrus,tablets,leaves,goat skin, cow skin, pottery,idol,wall carving,painting which even obliquely refers to any Rama birth site - except the gay love rantings of Tulsidas - which even Tulsidas admits, are not based on any revelations by Rama or Vishnu or Vrinda or Kaushalya
It is based on the beliefs and perceptions of Hindoos who are ignoramuses,imbeciles and heathens.
I challenge the ASI to show a Phallic worship object dated to the 5 century BC - as there is none.All the tales of Shiva are from Africa and West Asia -
wherein phallic symbols and kamasutra engravings are carbon dated to 2500 BC.
ASI Strategy and Hindoo seers
Then comes in the ASI - which does controlled excavations.If Rama was an icon even in North or Central India - I can bet that the ASI has not uncovered a
single Rama Temple dated to the 1st and 5th century AD.
Madhavcharya called Ade Shankara a son of a prostitute and a liar and cheat and a quasi Buddhist.There is not 1 line in the magnum opus of Ade Shankara or
Madhavacharya on any Rama birth place or a grandiose temple of learning at his birthplace.
The truth is that if ASI digs in December 2020,in Ayodhya, it will find several sites which will have the name of Rama on the walls and murals - but it purposely maintained the status quo - to bias the judiciary.
Even from the 5th to the 15 century, I can bet that that the ASI does not have a single site or artefact or cuneiform tablet or scripture or treatise -
which even remotely hints of a TEMPLE EVER AT A RAMA BIRTH SITE - forget the site of the birth of the impotent gay pansy Rama
Granth and Mahabharata
Even the Mahabaharata does not have 1 word on a grand TEMPLE ON THE SITE OF RAMA'S BIRTH PLACE - EVER.Not 1 word.
Sikhs believe that Nanak of the Bedi clan,was lineaged from Lav and Kush.There is not 1 line in the Granth on a grand temple on the site of Rama's birth
It proves the following :
The Brahmin Formula
The Brahmins forged and burnt the Granth Sahib,forged the Bachetar Natak introduced porn in the Granth Sahib,introduced Kali and Durga worship in the
Sikh scriptures ,killed- beheaded and poisoned the so called Sikh Prophets and also placed idols of Krishna and others in the Golden Temple.
Cogito
As an aside,why did the Hindoos not record in history the existence of a grand Temple for Rama,per se,let alone his birth place.
Simple !
Rama's mother had sex with a Horse and also had sex with 11 Brahmins as her husband was an impotent pansy
Kaushalya is quoted in the Ramayana, as saying that her husband and Rama ONLY GAVE HER SORROW AND NO SATISFACTION AND RESPECT (no sexual satisfaction for Kaushalya after the advent of Kaikeyi - and this is also stated in the Ramayana)
The above explains why Brahmins LOVE Rama.These people inserted verses and forgeries in the Gita and Mahabharata and the Vedas
Subject - Babri Masjid and Nanak's visit as per SC and providence
Context
This is proof that Hindoosthan has to be partitioned.dindooohindoo
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/ayodhya-verdict-hindus-get-disputed-site-for-ram-mandir-muslims-get-alternative-land/videoshow/71980573.cms
It will be Chaiwala's scam of the Billenium - a temple for a bogus god - for which Chaiwala will raise billions and will year billions from dodo hindoos
Reliance on Nanak
It is said that the SC relied on a purported visit by Nanak to Ayodhya for some Ram Janamsthan function.The SC judgment was on the 9th of November,2019,the day the Kartarpur corridor was operationalised and 1 day after the Demo Bomb
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/chandigarh/supreme-court-verdict-refers-to-guru-nanak-devs-ayodhya-visit/articleshow/71992339.cms
What is the sanctity of Nanak's visit - as it is based on hearsay.Further Nanak visited Ayodhya (as per Valmiki Ramyana-Bala Kandam -
Rama was born in Ayodhya) but not the site of the birth - purported to be a temple - implicitly by the SC
False Inference
There is no verse in the Granth extolling the virtues of Rama,while there are verses outlining the rape of the Hindoo martial races by Babar.It would be strange for the destruction of the Rama Birth temple - to not be stated in the Granth and the
subsequent scriptures.
Babar in the Granth
ONE UNIVERSAL CREATOR GOD. BY THE GRACE OF THE TRUE GURU:AASAA, SIXTH HOUSE, FIRST MEHL: || 4 || 4 || 38 ||
AASAA, FIRST MEHL:
Having attacked Khuraasaan, "Baabar terrified Hindustan". The Creator Himself does not take the blame, but has sent the "Mugal as the messenger death". There was so much slaughter that the people screamed. "Didn't You feel compassion,my Lord"
Nanak's Cogitation
Nanak was called a "Dambi" by Dayanand as he did not know Sanskrit.
It is inconceivable that Nanak's Granth which excoriates the Vedas,the Trinity and the Pandits/Brahmins - would lead Nanak
to visit the Rama Janam sthan in Ayodhya to see idolators and knowing that the Ramayana describes Rama as a meat eater,drunkard,pimp,coward,pansy and a killer of Sudras
Granth on Hindooism
SOOHEE, FOURTH MEHL, SEVENTH HOUSE: ONE UNIVERSAL CREATOR GOD. BY THE GRACE OF THE TRUE GURU:
|| 1 || Pause || Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva suffer from the”disease of the three gunas”,the three qualities; they do their deeds in egotism. The “poor fools” do not remember the One who created them; this understanding of the Lord is only obtained by those who become Gurmukh.
Credibility of Nanak as a Hindoo
It is also to be noted that on a visit to Mecca,Nanak was asked his religion - and he said he was a Hindoo.So did Tegh Bahadur,before he was killed
Tegh Bahadur last words
Tin te sun Siri Tegh Bahadur
Dharam nibaahan bikhe Bahadur Uttar bhaniyo, dharam hum Hindu
Atipriya ko kin karen nikandu Lok parlok ubhaya sukhani
Aan napahant yahi samani Mat mileen murakh mat loi
Ise tayage pramar soi Hindu dharam rakhe jag mahin
Tumre kare bin se it nahin
– Guru Tegh Bahadur’s reply to Aurangzeb’s ordering him to embrace Islam.
(In response, Shri Tegh Bahadur says, My religion is Hindu and how can I abandon what is so dear to me? This religion helps you in this world and that, and only a fool would abandon it. God himself is the protector of this religion and no one can destroy it.)
Nanak and Idolatory
Would Nanak visit the temples of idolators ?
It is the Hindoo Hangover- and so their forlorn love for Rama is misplaced,and also probably untrue
Can a True Muslim accept this order
Like I said in my post ABOVE "samir sardana says:November 17, 2019 at 1.57 am"
"Partition = only solution the Rama Temple will never be completed"
RAMA TEMPLE WILL NEVER BE COMPLETED !
CHAIWALA AND BANIA COMPANY HAD PLANNED TO BUILD IT BY JUNE 1ST !
INDIA WILL BE DESTROYED ! dindooohindoo
THE END HAS COMMENCED !
COMPLETE ERADICATION !
ALLAH LOVES ME !
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